At the moment I turn up to a large building that has been stripped of staff, and there are just 16 people in the building. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. Not much love for Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby amongst the Team Sky ranks it seems Air pollution: London mother launches petition for second inquest into daughter''s death, Jason Kenny recounts last months near miss on BBC TV, Yoann Offredo's condition described as not life-threatening after GP de Denain crash, Telegraph article suggests "Littering cyclists and joggers could be to blame for countryside rubbish problem", Jeremy Vine's latest unpleasant encounter, 'Youths on pedal cycles' help Wednesfield Police catch thief, Best Cycling Website, BikeBiz Awards 2018, Tao Geoghehan Hart (picture copyright Simon Wilkinson, SWPix.com via Britishcycling.org_.uk), "Looks like shit. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. Cycling Commentators on Eurosport & GCN 2022 - ProCyclingUK.com 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. Win! Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. It is a free-for-all. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses Chris Froome's performance in winning a fourth Tour de France. The walls do move when they pile in too. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's The man, the myth, the chosen son. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. https://t.co/rFjZ7dTFUE. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. I think its just taking a breath and think about the consequences, he concluded. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. You must log in or register to reply here. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. Baseless. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. You get the mood of the crowd, and of the press. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. We cant do that when hes at his house and Im at mine. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on Apple Podcasts It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. Ive been up the Galibier. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. If she wins so does everyone else. The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? London live show preview! James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. Hence, talking on something is difficult without matter. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. There are some other sports, like cycling, where the commentary has to be complete. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. What is the point? What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! Copyright 2015-2022 ProCyclingUK - All rights Reserved, 2024 Womens WorldTour Promotion/Relegation Standings, Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, Demi Vollering wins Strade Bianche from teammate Kopecky. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. Yep, thats my pick. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . In the early 1990s he became a freelance commentator. You are as ill informed as Kirby. AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. He is now only four short. 35m is 100ft. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. ), there is a thread in the. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. Hosted by Duncan Steer Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In Radio Days Events Sports NOV 24, 2021 London live show preview! He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. He believes. What you are talking about is a place in history. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. Like this site? Quite brilliant and gutsy from Tom. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. We have to get him off eurosport. New Eurosport presentation team for cycling's Grand Tours As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. "Oh! Get rid of Carlton Kirby - iPetitions All rights reserved. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. In conversation with Carlton Kirby - Cyclist CK: You need the details. Unlike other sports, the practicalities of cycling dont change, and doing this remotely is not at all a good idea, but the situation makes all helpless. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. Thanks to all who have signed. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? he's saving his energy. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. pic.twitter.com/RRu5rosVP4, Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 24, 2019, This time it's a driver who doesn't get the concept of taking the lane (and is caught soon after he risks an overtake on the clogged up London street anyway), Yesterday officers were helped by youths on pedal cycles & many other members of public in catching a thief (300 theft) from Bentley Bridge who security were chasing for a while. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. The Vuelta a Espana used to be the worst of the Grand Tours because theyd have transitions day of 250km across a desert. At Eurosport, because the producer maynot necessarily be listening to the Englishcommentary, theyll be occasions when I goto Sean and say, so what do you think of Sagan? and hell start mulling it over and responding and then all of a sudden well get a producing lining up a cue pointin his ear, and hell have to switch from his usual, slow voice to speaking very quickly and wrapping up his point in five seconds for no apparent reason to the viewer. You have got to be kidding! wow, all the power to you man! Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. While he admits Sagan's explusion for. As is seen in most cases, the primary action of any game takes place during the outset and ending parts. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. And he has outthought Marcel Kittel here. If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know. You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. You sit there, its often quite quiet, and you get brought an exotic meal like a guacamole sandwich. I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. You have engineers popping in and out, you have guests from the different languages, and the only thing separating us from the Germans, on our left, and the French, on our right, are thin sound walls its completely open at the back, he says. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. The headline does anyway, while the sources in the article cover a few different potential causes. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era - Eurosport A new bike is coming very soon! Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Went for a bike ride earlier today. He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings. Are you sure? There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. Pure invention; based on nothing. Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. . Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? After my tweet he at least toned that down. Discovery company. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. CK:I think not many people will notice. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Story Time with Carlton Kirby - How British cycling went - Eurosport I speak no language other than English. Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. La Vuelta cycling - 'Wow!' - Terrifying moment Alejandro - Eurosport You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. What blasphemy is this? I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. 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Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. When actually its just hand-written sheet of notes to recall from.. About - Carlton Kirby But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. VN:What difference will people notice in this years Tour broadcast from a normal year, when you and your team are on-site? The actual bones of the job are quite similar. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. They will tell you, Yes, so-and-so is looking really mentally fatigued, or, they are saying, Hes getting very aggressive in the peloton and weve had a word with the team, that is all great information. Discovery company. Thats when it down to you and not the riders.. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? Kelly will probably kill him by the end. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio.
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